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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:10 pm 
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Isn't that a trademark of all Kawasakis, and even most bikes - clunking into first? (scratches head......!)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:24 pm 
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Ha, right Rod! It was about 35 years ago I learned to:

1. Get to neutral before coming to a complete stop.

2. Let out the clutch briefly and lurch forward a few inches to get to neutral if "1." is not obeyed.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:48 pm 
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I get those guys all mixed up too.....lol

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:57 pm 

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Moo and Jim C

I am with you guys, I installed Ralf's RLS and then started on the Clutch side, was going to install new frictions and steels.....only to find out I had a modified 15 plate clutch (which is cool) :o .......I also have the EX500 clutch perch out as far as I can go.......clunks into first and drags very slightly :eh: I am not sure if I am going to put the old ball bearing release in or do the 10mm trick and move the hole back.

At any rate, the Pretty Purple H2 is back in the basement of the house, burnt\bent first gear shift fork. :problem: ....At least I made it to Mid-Ohio with it (that was a blast) :lol: I had hoped to make it 2 more months but oh well, time to start phase III

I have the heads off, and each side of the motor........found I had a leaking left seal into the stator covers as there was about an inch of funky nasty old two stroke oil in the bottom of the cover and you can see the seal lip goofed up.......also found the shift return nut loose.......time for an R&D undercut trans and a new crank from Charlie.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:56 pm 
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I think the trick for the 10mm hole relocation was to allow more adjustment and not create a longer throw.
With the EX clutch perch at number 1, the overall performance is the same as with the hole in the stock location as far as clutch travel.
I have not put a dial indicator on the basket this go round, but the amount of drag (clutch adjusted properly pushing bike in gear around the shop; engine off) is the same for mine with both stock hole or relocated. This relocation does allow for a greater ratio of movement of clutch vs. arm position. Unfortunately, it still doesn't give as much overall travel as a stocker (same test and clutch has more release).

I thought that Ralph's actuator had the ability to offer more travel like the stock unit but with high performance parts and a different angle on the twisted spline for greater travel and easier pull.

FWIW, I've been using a Sytec for years in both an old H1D and my H2; it's just not perfect.
I know the KH unit is ball bearing for less friction but does it offer a mechanical advantage over the plastic units?
Lastly, Ralph confirmed a suspicion that I have had which is while the stock springs are too soft, maybe the Barnett's are tremendous overkill.

Anybody have a recommendation of a spring between these two extremes?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:12 pm 
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3 and 2........... :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:57 pm 
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Jim C wrote:
I think the trick for the 10mm hole relocation was to allow more adjustment and not create a longer throw.


As I understand the mod that m in sc first did, it was to increase the throw, allowing better disengagement than the unmodified Sytec unit.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:49 pm 
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That's true, Jim Hobbs...... :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:36 pm 

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Thats what I thought, set the angle down a bit more with the 10mm mod and get a tad bit more travel or push.....I have my EX clutch perch on a 1 now, as far as it can go........since I have my bike apart, I will take some measurements between the Ralfs and stock 75 ball bearing pusher and post.........also, I am running 5 of the EBC 15% stiffer springs, not to bad really.

I wonder if the increase in push will waste the seal behind it if you have an early type seal

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:42 pm 
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I can get Sytec to completely bottom out with or without this mod and have less overall useable travel of a stocker.

Tell me about the KH500?
Does it offer a greater mechanical advantage or the same pull with better parts?

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