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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:33 pm 

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scrambler73 wrote:
triplefan wrote:

Nobody ground down the original numbers, they are clear as day in the right place but there is an additional number next to it pictured you have to look close. This was used as a road racer, I'm sure there is more to the numbers.



After the "H2E", there are 5 digits that follow.

There were only 48,xxx H2's built, so to have a number in the 60,xxx, would indicate either the 1st number was ground down and re-stamped with a "6", or the entire pad was carefully ground down, re-profiled (to have a radius that matches original on the edges) and stamped with all new numbers.

OR, it was a factory set of replacement cases that were stamped with the 60,xxx number.

I've spoken with Tony Nicosia on a number of occasions and have asked him dozens of questions in regards to the history of Denco, and never was a Denco road-race bike mentioned aside from Art Baumann on a CR90-like bike briefly.

I've bought a number of H1 and H2 roadrace bikes over the years and they all had weird crap on them.

See if you can chase down the original bike builder/racer to provide some answers to the numbers. I've had pretty good experiences finding guys from 30-40 years back that originally built a bike I now own.

Can you measure the ports to give a clue as to the "spec" your cylinders are?


Please look close at the image provided, it says H2E 37414. And about a cm infront of that is stamped B947... Like I said it's a numbers matching bike with title... Thanks for your thoughts though, I should probably just call Tony as I own a few rare items that he was involved with and Boots had mentioned he would like to talk to me. I'll try to measure them tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:53 am 
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Cody, get your glasses on, the serial number first digit is clearly 3......



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:41 pm 
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sorry..You're right. I had to blow the photo up and can see the other line in the "3"... MY BAD!!! :oops: :oops: :oops:

It looks like a "6" on my screen (where the dirt/oil has filled in the number).

As for the other serial numbers? Only Tony would know... Give him a call. I'm sure that he'd be happy to talk shop with you. He has a great memory, and his stories are awesome.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:44 pm 

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Here are the other chambers that came with it... Not sure the make... Also here are some more pictures of the Denco cylinders with numbers on top and bottom, top number shows Denco stamp and the number 24212 on all cylinders and heads, then the bottom fin on all cylinders says FP 7767...


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:53 pm 

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Here is a shot of the piston showing 080


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:22 pm 
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those are Denco SS (street silenced) chambers. :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:03 am 
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I'm guessing the post has been edited, all I am seeing is a set of matching engine and cases for a H2b, they left the factory together and the engine number is original, I do se the extra numbers on the engine and the frame - no clue what they refer to :think: Oh, Cody is correct, the chambers are J&R's and no-one would do any serious racing with such poor pipes, they drop power but allow the engine to rev a LOT higher.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:33 am 

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R.B. wrote:
I'm guessing the post has been edited, all I am seeing is a set of matching engine and cases for a H2b, they left the factory together and the engine number is original, I do se the extra numbers on the engine and the frame - no clue what they refer to :think: Oh, Cody is correct, the chambers are J&R's and no-one would do any serious racing with such poor pipes, they drop power but allow the engine to rev a LOT higher.



Hey R.B. The bike came with three sets of chambers, both pictured and a set of stingers that I figured were raced with and others came later when it got put back on the street.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:12 pm 
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triplefan wrote:
others came later when it got put back on the street.

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The J&Rs were responsible for many engine deaths, they would let the engine rev to 12,000RPM . . . whereupon a standard Kawasaki piston would part company at the wrist pin and exit via the exhaust :o . . Wisecos Etc didn't have that problem. :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:08 pm 

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Just curious but does anyone out there know what serial numbers or number range were used for the cr90 ? I hear something like only 3 are left?

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