$ 78,000.00 !!!
Yeah...I'm gonna park that outside the local saloon.
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| Author: | demus [ Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Another custom v-twin |
http://archmotorcycle.com/ Hope it's better than his acting. |
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| Author: | Ric [ Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Another custom v-twin |
$ 78,000.00 !!! Yeah...I'm gonna park that outside the local saloon.
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| Author: | Jim C [ Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Another custom v-twin |
"Each KRGT-1 gas tank is machined from 534 pounds of billet aluminum" It takes 66 hours to make the tank and 17 hours to machine the swing arm. Perfect to take to your local machinist's show and swap meet… But do it handle and go fast? |
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| Author: | Jim [ Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Another custom v-twin |
An engineering professor of my father's told him "An engineer is someone who can do for one dollar what any damn fool can do for two or three." In this case the ratio is a bit worse than that. |
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| Author: | scrambler73 [ Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Another custom v-twin |
Jim wrote: An engineering professor of my father's told him "An engineer is someone who can do for one dollar what any damn fool can do for two or three." In this case the ratio is a bit worse than that. I learned a similar version of that statement this way... Any fool can build a bridge that will stand up. It takes an engineer to build a bridge that will barely stand. .....and sometimes that barely just isn't enough...regardless of the price point that is trying to be met. As a self proclaimed "damn-fool", I spend much of my time re-engineering and re-manufacturing poorly designed things that "real" engineers (with paper hanging on their wall that clearly states they are much smarter than I!!!!) have brought to market. As to the WASTE of 500 odd pounds of billet to build a single fricken tank? Wow, I cannot believe they use that fact as a selling point? I'd be embarrassed if I were them. Usually I dig custom, or punk rock bikes...even stuff with V-twins in them... but this one is just plain a waste of everybody's time. Two Thumbs Down 
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| Author: | Jim [ Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Another custom v-twin |
Cody, the key is that the engineer has to do for one dollar, not fail to do or poorly do for one dollar. I've had to redesign and/or repair poorly made products myself. I have the piece of paper that says I graduated with an engineering degree, but the paper itself is meaningless except when applying for a job, so mine's shoved away in a drawer somewhere. In most manufacturing environments, the engineering department has engineers and designers who develop and test products. Then they are handed over to the manufacturing department, where the design is altered to save cost, simplify, make easier to build, etc.. Sometimes changes are made without consulting the people who did the original design, and without the benefit of understanding why that original design was done the way is was, things can go very badly. Then there's the fact that every profession has competent folks and incompetent folks. The point I was trying to make with the quote about doing for one dollar what anyone can do for two or three was similar to what you said in the last part of your post. Machining a fuel tank from a solid piece of aluminum isn't my idea of good engineering. But then not everything has to be, I guess.  From what I've seen of things you've built, you don't fall into the "any damn fool" category anyway, so I'm not sure why you said you do. |
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| Author: | scrambler73 [ Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Another custom v-twin |
Ok, I take that back. I'm not just "any damn fool"... I'm a special damn fool. 
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| Author: | Zambia [ Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Another custom v-twin |
I was thinking the bike looked nice ...until I saw the picture of a guy riding it...with his feet sticking out forward..Cafe meets cruiser - stupid. |
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| Author: | RODH2 [ Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Another custom v-twin |
I'm OVER huge V-twins, L-O-N-G wheelbases, "billet" everything (a gas-tank  ) "Passion", etc. etc. It's all Bling and 'hey, look at me!'. And now - Back to triples........!! 
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| Author: | Ric [ Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Another custom v-twin |
scrambler73 wrote: Jim wrote: As a self proclaimed "damn-fool", I spend much of my time re-engineering and re-manufacturing poorly designed things that "real" engineers (with paper hanging on their wall that clearly states they are much smarter than I!!!!) have brought to market.  it's always funny as hell when someone improves something they believe they've re-engineered it...but seriously....Careful....some of us out here are actual Engineers. |
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