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 Post subject: oldie but goodie....
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:43 pm 
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The Definition of Acceleration

Read this thru slowly and try to comprehend the amount of force produced
in just under 4 seconds!

There are no rockets or airplanes built by any government in the
world that can accelerate from a standing start as fast as a Top Fuel
Dragster or Funny Car!






One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower
than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500.


It takes just 15/100ths of a second for all 6,000+ horsepower of an NHRA
Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels.


Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro
methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate
with 25% less energy being produced.


A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the
dragster's supercharger.


With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive,
the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.


Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.


At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which
quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined)
1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of nitro methane, the flame front temperature
measures 7,050 deg F.


Nitro methane burns yellow... The spectacular white flame seen above the
stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water
vapor by the searing exhaust gases.


Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an
arc welder in each cylinder.


Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway,
the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves
at 1,400 deg F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.


If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in
the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow
cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.


In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an
average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track),
the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.


Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading
this sentence.


Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!
Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under
load.


The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.


Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for
once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $1,000.00 per second.


The current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.428 seconds for
the quarter mile (11/12/06, Tony Schumacher, at Pomona , CA ). The top
speed record is 336.15 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run
(05/25/05 Tony Schumacher, at Hebron, OH ).


Putting all of this into perspective:


You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter 'twin-turbo' powered
Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and
ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the
advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears
and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200
mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.


The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard,
but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within
3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish
line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.


Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200
mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed
you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.


...... and that my friend, is ACCELERATION!

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 Post subject: Re: oldie but goodie....
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:36 pm 
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..maybe -- but does it have a power band?? .....Ha! I didn't think so.


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 Post subject: Re: oldie but goodie....
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:45 pm 
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You are right, at 2000 rpm, it only has 2000 hp........ :P

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 Post subject: Re: oldie but goodie....
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:21 pm 

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a 747 engine lasts for years :) and makes about 50000shaft HP


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 Post subject: Re: oldie but goodie....
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:06 pm 
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Ja-Moo wrote:
There are no rockets or airplanes built by any government in the
world that can accelerate from a standing start as fast as a Top Fuel
Dragster or Funny Car!



TOW 2A
T + 1.6 Sec
Missile velocity = ~745 mph ;)

When I do the math....I get to the finish line first.....I'll be dead of course......but I'll get there first !!! :problem:

From directly along side the launcher: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09_4KkbjwWI

This view yields a better understanding of the speed, listen for the click when viewing the truck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XtFebwcOV8

Hope this puts to rest any question as to what rocket scientist can do in the realm of acceleration..... :P

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 Post subject: Re: oldie but goodie....
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:28 pm 

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Well considering they idle at 2-2500 rpm and redline at 9500+ thats a damn wide powerband if ya ask me... :shock: We can only dream! ;)

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 Post subject: Re: oldie but goodie....
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:33 pm 
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A missle ain't a rocket........ ;)

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 Post subject: Re: oldie but goodie....
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:49 am 
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Ja-Moo wrote:
A missle ain't a rocket........ ;)


HA....well....in the business people prefer "Missile". Usually "Rocket" is considered something unguided and goes ballistic, like MLRS. You're hot-rod might actually beat these puppies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRWxi_kz_sY

Although there is a version of MLRS that is guided (M30/31)

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 Post subject: Re: oldie but goodie....
PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:29 pm 

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Don't know if they still allow but I was at the 1973 top fuel NHRA nationals in Indy. They had a walkway bridge over the stageing area you could walk across. Had flimsy signs covering it so you couldn't have a full view but there were plenty of gaps and you could see the dragsters directly beneath you lighting up the tires. Once you are directly above a top fueler and they light the fuse you will never forget it. Every bone it your body rattles. It all makes perfect sense because something damn skippy is happening inside those motors. They got my respect a looong time ago.


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