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Totally off topic here, but I am curious as to what labour (Labor?) rates are where you are in the World Obviously there is a difference between what a business charges and what the employee gets, so lets go for what the company charges:

1, Skilled Plumber, Brickie, Chippy.

2, Building labourer

3, Skilled welder, fabricator, mechanic.

4,Unskilled welder, fabricator, mechanic.

5, BMW dealership labor rate

6, Local corner garage rate

7, Ducati dealership Labor rate

I'll start with my own experience :

1, North Michigan $50 an hour
2, North Michigan $22 an hour
3, North Michigan $35 an hour
4, North Michigan $20 an hour
5, ?
6, North Michigan $40 an hour
7, ?

1, England £20 an hour ($32)
2, England £15 an hour ($24)
3, England £25 an hour ($35)
4,
5, England £32 an hour ($51)
6,

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A client pays for a bike/car service between € 50-70/hour. Minimum wages/month are from € 1500 up to € 1950.
Salaries in construction and service businesses (working level) do vary from € 1800 to 2400 so the average is 2100. This makes less than € 15 what the employee gets.

Where is the gap?

This country has priced its labor costs sky high long ago, thanks to our politicians. When we hire someone we have to multiply his salary 1,8 times because of all social security and pension costs. And when a service industry company sells this work/hour forward, there is 23% value added tax on top of it. And the company is supposed to make some money also, just to cover general expenses.

And what does the employee get? Thanks to our high income taxation, not too much.
So the agreed salary is 2100 and the company cost is 3780. After taxes the worker gets 1550 in hand. Government takes 2230.
Progressive income taxation makes it much worst when someone earns more, for instance when the salary is 15.000/month, company expense is 27.000 and the guy gets 7500. Where is the exploiter?

The picture above has killed most of the small businesses - people cannot afford buying services. We are doomed to "do it yourself" forever.

Sorry I couldn't give precise prices/hour.

wage for a mechanic is about 8--, to 1000 a wk , plumbers would be 1500 ,

Lawn and Landscape work 75 dollars per hour (my business) 150 minimum on Landscape.

Just last week we had our Kitchen rebuilt three guys thre days 2,000 just labor.

Also last week my F-350 dump truck 5 days in the body shop at 500 dollars a day

Auto body under insurance restrictions are 45-55 per hour

Local Ford dealer ,
95 per hour autos and up to F-250 trucks
120 per hour F-350 and up

Local Harley shop 65 dollars per hour . I thought that was low.

Oil burner service 85 dollars per hr/ emergency rate is double with out a contract with contract its free.

Big ass tow truck to pull really big trucks out of a snow bank 425 dollars per hour from the shop back to the shop.


NY is probably 2nd or 3 most expensive state to live in our rates are high on everything however there is work here ya just got to get out there an get it.

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I'm a skilled fabricator, bodyman, upholsterer, ASE certified tech, and general "know what I'm doing" worker. I actually have no idea what my boss charges the customer for the work I do, but I believe it's in the $50-$60/hr range.

When I had the shop (auto repair) it was around $95/ hour, general rule was 70% margin on labor (we paid our techs well), 50% margin on parts (average) to be profitable. As an example if your cost for a tech was $30.00 hour (wages and benefits) charge out rate should be $100.00 It's hard for me to imagine a rate of $40.00 that could possibly work unless you eliminate some overheads like insurance, warranty, IRS etc

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That is interesting . A plumber can solder and stick stuff together but a mechanic has to know a WHOLE lot more - . . . . . . Unless it is a younger mechanic that has to know how to plug in a "box" that tells him what is wrong

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The difference?

I have a slight miss in my motor

or

My bathroom is flooding..........

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Plumbing/heating and cooling kinda go hand and hand some of the systems are pretty tech not many slackers in that trade.

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1975 S3 project bike
1974 H1 project bike
1972 Yamaha R5
1974 Yamaha RD350