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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:00 pm 
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I'm in agreement too. The "promises" made by your old job, while they may come to be initially, would likely be subject to modification or elimination down the road...no guarantees on these extras. And even if they did guarantee them, what does that mean exactly? Because all they have to do is cite a decrease in demand, thus requiring a decrease in work needs, and you're back to square one. Take the new job and night shift, and consider any opportunities in this new job that would make you even more valuable to the company in the long run.

Be sure to invest as much as you can non-stop into whatever retirement plan is offered to you, even if it means cutting back a bit in monthly spending, taking in consideration of course your wife's health needs, because the last thing you want is to be struggling when the day comes that you do retire, and find yourself not being able to make ends meet, and worse yet, having to take a job as a senior to do so. But also be sure not to place all of your eggs in one basket - diversify where you can.

Lastly, I've heard this before - the more money you make, the more money a lot of people end up spending. They get into a comfortable "mode" of income, so that when things do tighten up a bit as you've been experiencing, all of a sudden you can't afford a lot of things that you're used to. So whether you end up making the same or better pay than you're used to, again, scale back where you can and put it into your retirement, whether at work or through a trusted bank or investment company, or both.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:19 pm 
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Gut feeling is change....

My step-father was a linotype machinist most of his life but the change from melting lead to computers all but killed it for him.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:41 pm 
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Definitely a dilemma - I've been in printing 35 years + 4 years of polytechnic degree before that. The trade has certainly changed (and declined) but for me it's still interesting - every job we do (almost), is a custom manufactured product. We just invested $1.5 million (CDN) in a digital UV inkjet press which runs 8 page format at 3,000 sheets per hour. Hard to believe it, but there is room for growth in print. A lot of people assumed book printing would never recover from the invention of readers such as Kindle...but actually...people like print. It's hard for owners to make good money anymore but it's out there. Good luck to you whatever you decide!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:21 pm 
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Decide to take the new start or betting on the desperate offer to stay?


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