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I've been riding my almost finished project 71 H1 around. It has a full brand new clutch set I bought from Midland cycle that featured lighter springs so it didn't kill your hand, but was supposed to be strong enough to get the job done. Well.... it slips when the engine comes on the pipe so my question is.....
I have a set of the stiff Barnett spings but they are way too stiff. Should I try maybe 3 of Barnett spings in combo with the weaker ones? Or, should try that trick of placing a washer underneath all the weaker springs to preload them? What do you think?

Lots of us have used a combination of springs in the past to get that feel and grip just right.
For my money, a set of the Barnett or a heavier spring, is best to ensure a good non slipping grip.
The extra heavy pull can be alleviated by using a better release mechanism, like Ralf's or better yet, one of the hydraulic ones like Ned on the Canadian forum sells.


jmho

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I think your right! Heavier springs, better release set up. That way I don't have to pull the cover multiple times chasing that perfect pull. Thanks so much III.

A good Bud makes the hydraulic ones but I think Ian (Zambia on the forums) has them for sale.

Here is a great post another member put up about the install he did.

http://triplescanada.proboards.com/thread/12327/neds-hydraulic-clutch-parts-instructions

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Great info and advice above.

I have never run an H series clutch without a full set of Barnett springs, even on stock number of plates, and stock friction plate clutches, and certainly never with a set of springs that were lighter than stock.

Also, getting the right ratio in the release is essential, with the right combo on a hydraulic clutch being ideal.

From an investigation I did several years back:

A drop in H1 15 plate clutch offered by Barnett:

"This is a special kit we put together at the riders request. We can do this with some models, certainly not every bike.

Order as follows.....Code 9997, #K-575, full kit, 8 frictions,7 steels, 5 springs. MSRP $189.94,
plus shipping. This will fit both H1 and H2 models.

WE accept Visa, Discovery and MasterCard, Call 805-642-9435, M-F, 8am-4pm PST.

Not available through a dealer. Only made to order

Than you for your inquiry,"

Mike Taylor



Since you already have new friction plates maybe just get the thinner steels from Barnett and one more friction plate?. The kit comes with 1mm steel plates but some people have installed 1.2mm plates and thinned the thick washer under the hub.

Be sure to file smooth the wear ridges on the basket fingers so the frictions won't hang upon release..

J

Thanks for all the input. I had taken all the Barnett springs out of my 70 H1, too stiff and clutch creep. Turns out in the 71 H1, with a dirt bike style lever, the 5 Barnett springs actually feel pretty good! No more slip, no creep. I was ready to do the hydraulic setup but now I don't think I'll need to.