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 Post subject: Re: 74 h1 "The Project"
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:26 pm 
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I was originally going to run a stock front rotor that had the "moo"difications done to it but after the Minnesota boys made them readily available to the public I decided to go a different route.

Here is the rotor that I am going to run. 2005 Honda 600rr.

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I needed to make up an adapter to mount the rotor to the hub.

Well this isn't going to work like this......

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It's starting to peek its head out.....

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Now this is better....

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I had to put threaded inserts into the hub for the rotor screws. The rotor was also not the same hole pattern diameter as the stock h rotor. In the pic the big holes are the original rotor mounting holes and where the threaded inserts are is the 3 original "hub cap" mounting holes and 3 more added.

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The adapter and the rotor sitting on the hub......

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Finished assembly of the front wheel. The rim is an 18" Sun 2.15" wide and the tire is a BT45 100/80-18

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 Post subject: Re: 74 h1 "The Project"
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:48 pm 
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Dude, you are GOING FOR IT! Very cool build! :thumbup: :clap: :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: 74 h1 "The Project"
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:09 pm 

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You are doing some extremely nice machine work, sir. NOT to criticize, that is NOT intended, but, from all the bikes I have done in the eons of racing and street, I, personally, never have liked the eccentric axle, nor swing arm pivot round adjusters. That said, your work is flat over the top beautiful, and I hope the eccentric adjusters work well for you.

I had always thought that if BOTH ends of the swing arm had the eccentric adjusters, it might be better, so the swing arm could be dialed in with a lot more settings for angle. I never did have the opportunity to investigate past my suspicions, though.

Just FYI, Erv Kanemoto used to "cantilever" his rear shocks, as you have done with the upper mounts. I did same with the Koni's on my nice fast street H2. At ride height, Erv liked 36 degrees of shock angle from straight vertical.


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 Post subject: Re: 74 h1 "The Project"
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:06 pm 
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Ja-Moo wrote:
Parts are looking great! And give the "shocks" a chance, they may "loosen up" after some use...... :lol: :lol:


Thanks.

Ja-Moo wrote:
Dude, you are GOING FOR IT! Very cool build! :thumbup: :clap: :thumbup:


Were you expecting any less. :lol:

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You are doing some extremely nice machine work, sir. NOT to criticize, that is NOT intended, but, from all the bikes I have done in the eons of racing and street, I, personally, never have liked the eccentric axle, nor swing arm pivot round adjusters. That said, your work is flat over the top beautiful, and I hope the eccentric adjusters work well for you.


No offense taken Tuner. The eccentrics were more a product of exercise than anything else, to see if I could do it. It was also for a little more individuality, there are not many that do eccentrics on there builds, especially modified swingarm homemade ones. The last piece that sealed the deal for them was some motorcycle picture book I have has 2 different vintage Kawi racers in it that have them on, one was the kr250 and the other was a zx/gpz 750 race bike with non-factory eccentrics. I took some styling ques for the holes in my adjusters from these bike, they are not identical but fit right in with them. The hold down clamps for the adjusters are based on the looks of the 80's/90's zx ninjas that used eccentrics.

I think you are right in them not being the best thing since sliced bread but I am pretty sure I will be able to get them to work out ok.


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 Post subject: Re: 74 h1 "The Project"
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:14 pm 
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Oxford. making parts from billet is what i love to do. Your disc carrier mode was very well thought out and looked very nice. I had a JMC swing on a Harris Frame GPZ special i did a few years ago that also uses the eccentric chain adjusters,they make chain adjusting a breeze, i personally liked them. I can see why Tunner does not care for them as his bikes were probably ridden on the track by world class riders who notice slight changes in geometry. But for the average street rider i dought would ever notice the difference if the adjuster was set at the top or the bottom of its stroke.
Anyway good work. lets see more billet

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 Post subject: Re: 74 h1 "The Project"
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:12 am 
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One of the trick on the GPZ's with eccentrics was to move the axle to the bottom for a bit quicker handling. As they were on the top from the factory.

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 Post subject: Re: 74 h1 "The Project"
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:29 pm 
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I got the front wheel spacers done. I still need to get them into the mill and put the wrench flats on the one.

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 Post subject: Re: 74 h1 "The Project"
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:00 pm 
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How about a hole or two for a C spanner?

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 Post subject: Re: 74 h1 "The Project"
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:08 pm 
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Ja-Moo wrote:
How about a hole or two for a C spanner?


That is a possibility.


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 Post subject: Re: 74 h1 "The Project"
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:39 pm 
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Kinda cool, for a clean look.....

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