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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:35 am 

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Hello.

Just taken the mastercard out ( my Flexible friend) a 71' H1, the indicators ( turn signals) are lazy at best. At idle they are happy. Once riding and In the mid range on the revs, they come on when selected, they stay on or eventually start to flash. When it flashes it can be slow and speed up. Or go nuts like a bulb out. Intially thought its the flasher unit but it works at idle. Any ideas folks?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:23 am 
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Check your battery voltage at various engine speeds.

If that's OK, then try changing the flasher. They're cheap. You don't need one for an H1, just any old 2-terminal flasher.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:27 am 
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Slow or no flash usually means low battery voltage.
It could be that at higher rpms the CDI is drawing more current from battery to a point than voltage drops below what is required for flasher to work.
An electronic flasher may solve your problem. It may be that battery is weak or defect in charging system.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:09 am 

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Thankyou wonderful awesome folk.

Ill get the battery on charge and give that a go. Ive had the battery a few years now, probably longer. The voltage draw makes a lot of sense. My flasher has a lovely dent In the side.

Will report back from norfolk uk. As to what i find.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:20 pm 

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Also, clean, qualify all the ground paths from the t signs to chassis, ditry/loose can make problems.

Make sure the flasher relay is for t sign, and not 4 way hazard.


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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2022 1:53 pm 

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Taken it out on a fully charged battery. Issue still present and measured the volts at the battery at idle, 5K and 7k
I got the following, 13.3 V, 16.9V and 17 volts. Seems a bit high hence the no flash. What should it be? Earth paths are good, clean.

Im thinking check the Regulator, maybe the flasher is toast, Ill check the flywheel, had that RE wired last year.


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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2022 3:28 pm 
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Yeah, at 17 volts the speed of the flashing may not be your biggest problem. The regulator and its wiring need to be checked.

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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:54 am 

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Checked out the Regulator. Im at 57 ohms, so outside the book figures of 53/55 ohms, not much. Probably part of the issue.
I have one of these, so going to wire this in.

https://www.regulatorrectifier.com/cata ... -regulator

Can the orignal signal coils be rewound to give the desired ohms?


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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2022 2:26 pm 
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Chris46 wrote:
Checked out the Regulator. Im at 57 ohms, so outside the book figures of 53/55 ohms, not much. Probably part of the issue.
I have one of these, so going to wire this in.


The way to test the regulator is to connect an analog voltmeter to the battery and read its voltage while revving the engine a bit. Using an ohm meter to test a regulator requires that you use the exact same meter as the one that was used to write the test procedure.

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https://www.regulatorrectifier.com/catalog/1969-1975-kawasaki-500-h1-voltage-regulator

Can the orignal signal coils be rewound to give the desired ohms?


Are you saying your signal generator (pickup) has a resistance outside of the range specified in the manual? If so, how far off is it? In any case, I don't know of any way to rewind that sealed plastic unit. But if it's triggering the CDI unit, it's working.

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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:57 pm 

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Hello,
Thankyou for your time.
I did a static check of the Regulator as per the H1 resources, black / brown wire and got 57ohms.
Ive check Volts engine running.

Im using an analogue multimeter as per the images.

Sorry I got my words mixed up. I didnt Measure the pick up, I mean the little green winding, under the Regulator that ive tested.Shame I can't get it rewound. Its a really clean Regulator.


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