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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 7:59 pm 

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Location: New Hampshire Vermont border
Hello,

I see the connecting rod kit is obsolete from Kawasaki. Doing some aftermarket search I see some made by

MACO or Kiwami. even these may be in short supply?

Both claim to be manufactured in Japan. Any one use either of these and can advise on their quality and reliability?

Is there anyone else that makes a quality rod kit for the H1?

This is obviously a critical item and appreciate some advise here.

Thank you

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 8:00 pm 

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Charlie should be along soon and he can set you straight.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 9:49 pm 
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Welcome to the board, Vintageman!

Right, I recently had Charlie Smith rebuild my H2 crank and he supplied three new rod kits. He has the goods. He's in the vendors section of the resource site under "machining" if you want to contact him directly.

http://www.kawatriple.com

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2020 9:58 am 
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Whatever rod kits you get, it's always a good idea and relatively cheap to get them shot peened.

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2020 4:26 pm 

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Who can shot peen them?

Is this true of OEM rods also?


Thanks

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1973 H1-D (New Project)
Suzuki
1974 GT250 (T350 upgrade)
1976 GT250 (T350 upgrade)
1971 T350
1970 T350 (New Project)
1974 GT380
1975 T500
1973 GT550
1975 GT750
Yamaha
1972 DS7 (R5 upgrade)
1977 RD400


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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2020 4:41 pm 
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Shot peening is always nice for extreme service like racing. On the other hand, my stock rods went something like 40,000 miles with plenty of 8,500 rpm shifts and their share of missed shifts that sent the tach into ventricular fibrillation over the decades. I recently had Charlie replace them because they were worn out, not because of breakage.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 10:42 am 
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All rods can benefit. It's cheap, and Charlie can get it done for you.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 10:55 am 
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Ja-Moo wrote:
All rods can benefit. It's cheap, and Charlie can get it done for you.


What is the benefit? I expect a rod would never break unless the piston stuck hard .. at this point peening won't help? Can the process help inhibit corrosion?


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 11:55 am 
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Zambia wrote:
What is the benefit? I expect a rod would never break unless the piston stuck hard .. at this point peening won't help? Can the process help inhibit corrosion?

It creates a layer of compression in the metal at the rod's surfaces. That reduces the maximum tension that develops at the rod surface during use. Since it's tension that tends to start cracks, this reduces the probability of crack formation.

I'd get it done on Big Block Chevy rods if I planned on running one at high RPM, for example. But John's right that it's not expensive and it certainly doesn't hurt anything. Rod failures do seem to be fairly rare in triples though. You don't hear of "throwing a rod" out of the blue like you do with automotive engines in racing.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:00 pm 
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Zambia wrote:
Ja-Moo wrote:
All rods can benefit. It's cheap, and Charlie can get it done for you.


What is the benefit? I expect a rod would never break unless the piston stuck hard .. at this point peening won't help? Can the process help inhibit corrosion?

The biggest issue we have drag racing is broken rods which in turn usually takes out the cases with it. But that is a 150HP dragbike so for a streetbike it normally would not have the forces you would have leaving the line on a sticky track. For most street applications shot peened rods are an overkill, just my opinion.


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