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 Post subject: Correct dipstick?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:29 pm 
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The H2B gearbox oil dipstick I have had been butchered with the typical vise grip marks to undo it, so I bought another. But I did not know they were different from H1 to H2, but can someone clarify which is the correct one?


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 Post subject: Re: Correct dipstick?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:51 pm 
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I'm pretty sure someone with the real answer will be along, but when I have that problem, I change the oil, put the amount in that the manual specifies, and mark the dipstick to that level.

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 Post subject: Re: Correct dipstick?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:06 am 
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There are three dipsticks for triples:
S series & H1B/D/E/F KH= 16115-017 - 89mm stem length - flat on stem - tapered top - http://kawatriple.com/partid/list2/16115-017.jpg
H1/A/C = 16115-001 - 87mm stem length - round stem - square top - http://kawatriple.com/partid/list2/16115-001.jpg
H2 = 16115-002 - ??? stem length - round stem - square top - http://kawatriple.com/partid/list2/16115-002.jpg
I don't have H2 stem length.

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 Post subject: Re: Correct dipstick?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:44 am 
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I just measured my early 1972 H2's dipstick. It has a 75 mm stem with two ring markings, and everything is round except the flat handle on the top. Then I measured my later 1972 H2's dipstick, and its stem is 87.5 mm long with two ring markings, and also all round. Then I double checked the measurements. I guess when I change the oil in my early H2, I'll do what I said and measure the amount of oil carefully and see where it comes on the stick.

When I put my two side by side, it looks just like the photo in the original post. I wonder if the short dipstick on my early '72's stick has anything to do with why I've never had to split the case halves.

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 Post subject: Re: Correct dipstick?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:09 am 
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Maybe the later H2 has an H1 dipstick???
All H2 used -002.
H1 had 1.2L capacity where H2 had 1.4L capacity.
Makes sense that the H2 dipstick would be shorter.... like 75mm.

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 Post subject: Re: Correct dipstick?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:16 am 
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Part Number = 16115-002
Part Description = OIL FILLER PLUG
Model Count = 16
J1 65 90 J1 MINI BIKE
J1T 65 90 J1T MINI BIKE
J1TL 66 90 J1TL MINI BIKE
J1TR 65 90 J1TR DUAL PURPOSE
J1TRL 67 90 J1TRL DUAL PURPOSE
D1 66 100 D1 DUAL PURPOSE
C2SS N/A 120 C2SS 120 ROADRUNNER STREET
C2TR N/A 120 C2TR 120 ROADRUNNER STREET
A1 N/A 250 SAMURAI DUAL PURPOSE
A1R N/A 250 A1R STREET
A1SS N/A 250 SAMURAI SS DUAL PURPOSE
A7 N/A 350 AVENGER DUAL PURPOSE
A7SS N/A 350 AVENGER SS DUAL PURPOSE
H2 72 750 H2 MACH IV STREET
H2B 74 750 H2 MACH IV STREET
H2C 75 750 H2 MACH IV STREET

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 Post subject: Re: Correct dipstick?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:38 pm 
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The one on the left in my pic is the one that came with the bike. But my brother had a lot of H1's and only this H2B, and many of the parts I got in the 'basket' were H1, the rubber intake manifold for example, and the rear grab bar. I'll measure what I have and report back.

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 Post subject: Re: Correct dipstick?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:25 am 
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The stick that was installed in my H2B is 87mm long, bottom of the cast cap to the bottom of the stick itself, and is the one on the left in the pic.

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 Post subject: Re: Correct dipstick?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:39 am 
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The one think I know for sure now is that I'll accurately measure the oil next time I change it, and see where it comes on the stick, if it touches it at all. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Correct dipstick?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:36 am 
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The stick that was installed in my H2B is 87mm long, bottom of the cast cap to the bottom of the stick itself, and is the one on the left in the pic.

Could you measure stem length on BOTH for comparison?
I would have thought the one on the RIGHT would be 87mm.

I took your pic and scaled the difference between the two you show. As inaccurate as that might be I came up with a 11.7% different stem length between them.
If you assume, as I did, that the longer one (on right) is 87mm then the shorter one would be 76.8mm long. That is pretty close to what Jim measured (75mm).

I had not known that there was a length difference and want to document it but I want it to be correct.

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