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 Post subject: New nuts and bolts
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:40 pm 

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When you fellas do your incredible restorations, do you re-plate and reuse your old fasteners, find NOS, or buy new production fasteners somewhere?

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 Post subject: Re: New nuts and bolts
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:26 am 
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GUTS wrote:
When you fellas do your incredible restorations, do you re-plate and reuse your old fasteners, find NOS, or buy new production fasteners somewhere?


Thank you for asking this question. This is right up mraxl's alley as he has recently started a new project on identifying Kawasaki hardware and reconciling part numbers.

If you are after 100pt factory original the first order of business is to determine what is original to your machine and what is not and if there is damage (for example, JIC crosshead screws removed and replaced with SAE screwdrivers). Good hardware, screws, nuts, bolts, washers and spacers is usually sent out for new zinc plating. Used correct hardware is not too difficult to find, folks are selling small piles of it on the Internet all the time. Correct NOS period hardware is currently sold there too but it's often expensive and somewhat difficult to locate everything. Current new stock is available and inexpensive for a lot of part numbers but you will soon discover the numbers have been superseded a few times over the years and the parts you receive will not always exactly match the originals.

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 Post subject: Re: New nuts and bolts
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:26 am 
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How you go depends on how deep your pockets are and how original you want to be.
Cheapest, easiest thing I have found is to replace most hardware with stainless fasteners.
Another option is to replate what you have with a Caswell kit.
The most expensive option is to buy originals from ebay.
As stated, most/much hardware is available from Kaw, however many part numbers are now superceded with parts that are unlike originals. Most standard hex bolts have been replaced with recessed head (upset) bolts.
One thing to keep in mind is that a cleaned bolt will usually have the plating stripped during cleaning and will soon take on rust.

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 Post subject: Re: New nuts and bolts
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:35 am 
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mraxl wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that a cleaned bolt will usually have the plating stripped during cleaning and will soon take on rust.



hahahahahah - yep I know (but I don't care) :wave:

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 Post subject: Re: New nuts and bolts
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:38 pm 
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Another thing to consider is that other brands (Suzuki) use alot of the same hardware and
if you know the length and size you can get just about everything new relatively cheap.
When I restored my '77 Water Buffalo, I was able to get about 90% of what I needed from Mother Suzuki.
Still in stock in the warehouses. Takes a couple of weeks to get, but most everything available.
Dillon Brothers is where I shopped. http://www.powersportspro.com/pages/OemParts
They do Kawasaki stuff too.
When I bought the hardware, I'd just buy a bag of 10 even if I only needed 2.
All that residual hardware is coming in really handy with the H2 project.
Kawasaki parts come with a higher price tag if you can find it.
The fact that it comes in a Kawasaki labelled bag (that I'm gonna throw out) really doesn't mean that much to me.


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 Post subject: Re: New nuts and bolts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:59 am 
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sfront wrote:
The fact that it comes in a Kawasaki labelled bag (that I'm gonna throw out) really doesn't mean that much to me.

Don't you know, you're supposed to keep the bag to use in the photos of used crap to list on eBay! :lol: And call it "OEM", which will trigger people's mind to think "NOS". :x

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 Post subject: Re: New nuts and bolts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:45 am 

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I put my small rusty nasty things in a rock tumbler fot a day and they come out looking much better, good enough for a rider :D

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 Post subject: Re: New nuts and bolts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:16 am 
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Stainless steel fasteners are available at auto-parts stores, etc, and are cheap. File the markings off the head, and polish away. Not suitable for high-load areas like brakes, suspension, etc. Original plated bolts for show are available from vendors like Reproductiondecals, Mid-Atlantic Cycles, JessBikes, etc. High-Tensile gold-passivated zinc fasteners for out of the way areas are cheap and available anywhere......! I think that covers it!! :D (A rock-tumbler!!!! :shock: )

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 Post subject: Re: New nuts and bolts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:42 am 

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RODH2 wrote:
.! I think that covers it!! :D (A rock-tumbler!!!! :shock: )


Actually its a brass ammo casing cleaner (might soon be illegal here in the Peoples Republic of New York) :lol: , works good too :D

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 Post subject: Re: New nuts and bolts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:45 am 
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That sounds a lot better! :lol:

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