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 Post subject: Re: First start up
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:39 pm 
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I understand the apprehension but the worse thing that can happen is that it won't start (assuming the engine was properly assembled). Once the engine is together then the only concern is getting oil to flow to the check valves.

You can set carb sync and do static timing prior to startup or just wait until you hear it run.
Once it is running set timing with a light first and then setup the carbs.
Also check that the alternator is charging the battery and that all lighting works.

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 Post subject: Re: First start up
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:52 pm 

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Nothing going on for the next few hours so you can get all of your cursing out before offending anyone :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: First start up
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:07 pm 
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Just a couple of follow up questions:
How much tranny oil does it take to fill it up? I am using Gearsaver... I put in a quart but it barely reaches the dipstick.
Also, How is the petcock orientated? I put it so the handle is on the left side but the way the vacuum hose points looks weird.
I'm dealing with a petcock drip but as soon as I solve that I plan to kick it over.

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 Post subject: Re: First start up
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:18 pm 
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ThatGPzGuy wrote:
Just a couple of follow up questions:
How much tranny oil does it take to fill it up? I am using Gearsaver... I put in a quart but it barely reaches the dipstick.
Also, How is the petcock orientated? I put it so the handle is on the left side but the way the vacuum hose points looks weird.
I'm dealing with a petcock drip but as soon as I solve that I plan to kick it over.


Don't know what motor, the capacity is on Dales site. Not sure about the petcock direction.

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 Post subject: Re: First start up
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:23 pm 
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You haven't said what model we are discussing but here is a chart with capacities:
http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/tuneup.html
Petcock always faces left.

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 Post subject: Re: First start up
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:03 pm 
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74 H1.
Darn it. I checked the resource site but looked under specs and not tune up info.
Thanks,

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 Post subject: Re: First start up
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:21 pm 
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Moo's right on the pump. I've done this a few times and just recently with a complete open case and rebuilt crank.

One thing I changed was to a clear oil line into the pump, I hooked up all the cylinder lines first, filled the tank maybe 1/4 full - let gravity do its thing through the line and just as it was coming out the banjo I screwed it in.

I double checked everything I could see and remember, it started right up. I then hold the pump wide open and you can see the oil (and air pockets) bleeding out and moving through the lines, only take a minute plus it lets you know the pump is working.

Everyone - I put the new Service Bulletin End-Cap and O-ring fix on the pump - no leaks and seems fine.

Here's a vid I did but I was not fast enough to capture the lines bleeding through but it's real obvious when it does. I leave the pump cover off and screw in the tach cable - it keeps the gizmo/assembly from leaking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21GLwNVBZcY

Film yours for posterity and share with us too please.

PS - It don't matter about how much gear oil - it's a fine line on the type, the amount, the altitude you live in and the ambient temperature. If it leaks this summer you put in too much! I CONSTANTLY dealt with puddles of gear oil until someone here said "just turn the overflow UP" which I did. Base-line is the same for me as spec - 1.5qt (for H2).

PPS - get this - during my reassembly I found a drain-plug gasket in a kit I had. I used it in-place of the home-made one I've been using for 20 years - and the SOB is oozing a little! I'm making a new one myself.

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 Post subject: Re: First start up
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:37 pm 
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Good job Brother Barry. :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: First start up
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:14 am 
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Thanks for the encouragement Barry.
I have another question. What is the initial set up for the idle stop screw? I've read the carb syncing procedures on the resource site. Is that all I need to do?

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 Post subject: Re: First start up
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:00 am 
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Set the idle stop screw to where it just touches the slide for initial setting. Then adjust as required after running.

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